{"id":6122,"date":"2013-09-09T11:00:54","date_gmt":"2013-09-09T18:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.blackswanreport.com\/blog\/?p=6122"},"modified":"2013-09-09T11:13:35","modified_gmt":"2013-09-09T18:13:35","slug":"richard-dawkins-in-his-statement-about-the-number-of-nobels-granted-to-moslems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.blackswanreport.com\/blog\/2013\/09\/richard-dawkins-in-his-statement-about-the-number-of-nobels-granted-to-moslems\/","title":{"rendered":"Richard Dawkins, in his statement about the number of Nobels granted to Moslems&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<p>Richard Dawkins, in his statement about the number of Nobels granted to Moslems, showed a total ignorance of probability. A primitive violation. You never get an idea about the mean from measuring the tail (number of Nobels per capita). The &#8220;tail&#8221;, the extreme, depends mostly on the variance and is very sensitive in the mean. Small differences in education, less than 1% can produce 100x changes in the number of persons in the tails. To compare 2 populations, you compare THE MEANS, not the extrema, STATISTICS 101!<\/p>\n<p>It is an intellectual violation of the worst order. I wonder why the press never picked up on this. And why in the world does anyone call Richard Dawkins a scientist?<\/p>\n<p>Please not that I am not a Moslem, but Greek Orthodox Levantine.<\/p>\n<p>(I set aside the notion that had some Medieval moslem compared his population to that of Northern, the difference would have much, much more striking, and to say the least *not predictive*. Also ignore his use of a Western metric on a non Western population).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151694181698375&amp;id=13012333374\">Richard Dawkins, in his statement about&#8230; &#8211; Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>(continued) Mr Dawkins you cannot compare Nobels per capita as a metric for intelligence because of nonlinearities. If a naive &#8220;scientist&#8221; (fooled by randomness) like you compared Ashkenazis Jews, representing ~5 million, with 50% of scientific Nobel Prizes, to the rest of the world&#8217;s population of 7 bil, he would have assumed that Ashkenazis have IQs of 7000 times the average!<\/p>\n<p>Mr Dawkins I can send you my book Fooled by Randomness that might help you try to think a bit harder about these problem. Also the error (misunderstanding convexity) is discussed 2x in Antifragile.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151694212833375&amp;id=13012333374\">(continued) Mr Dawkins you cannot&#8230; &#8211; Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>(continued) my comment used IQ as an example, but we can use educational level, any metric: the response for the population of the super-super-elite is vastly nonlinear and depends mostly on variance.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151694307533375&amp;id=13012333374\">(continued) my comment used IQ as an&#8230; &#8211; Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Friends, should I do a micro-mooc on the Dawkins statement?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151695212123375&amp;id=13012333374\">Friends, should I do a micro-mooc on the&#8230; &#8211; Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Micro Mooc:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NQ8C6oN81d0&amp;feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NQ8C6oN81d0&amp;feature=youtu.be<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What can we learn from Mr Dawkins&#8217; errors and misuse of probability?<\/p>\n<p>A brief nontechnical micro-MOOC on the error of comparing populations by focusing on the tails, and how tail probabilities are<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151695233603375&amp;id=13012333374\">Micro Mooc:&#8230; &#8211; Nassim Nicholas Taleb | Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NQ8C6oN81d0?rel=0\" height=\"360\" width=\"480\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Richard Dawkins, in his statement about the number of Nobels granted to Moslems, showed a total ignorance of probability. A primitive violation. You never get an idea about the mean from measuring the tail (number of Nobels per capita). The &#8220;tail&#8221;, the extreme, depends mostly on the variance and is very sensitive in the mean. 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